fireshot91
Apr 11, 05:43 PM
Around here, I'm fairly certain it's around $4/Gal.
The cheapest gas station in the area is a good 3-4 miles down, and I still drive there to get gas.
The other day I saw it for $3.60/Gal, and filled it up. Honda Civics FTW.
The cheapest gas station in the area is a good 3-4 miles down, and I still drive there to get gas.
The other day I saw it for $3.60/Gal, and filled it up. Honda Civics FTW.
blow45
Apr 14, 07:56 PM
Based on some of the posts in this one forum, it seems that most are coming from loud mouth teens who know nothing, or just want to say something for the hell of it. Geez!
not even teens, preteens, they are all over this place, and the amount they write here is inversely proportional to their knowledge and experience. uggghhh:eek:
not even teens, preteens, they are all over this place, and the amount they write here is inversely proportional to their knowledge and experience. uggghhh:eek:
DeSnousa
May 14, 06:30 PM
agreed. and i've seen other very active forums where they have give-aways and stuff for the "folder of the month" and such. i've even seen some members give other members video cards or computers, as long as they agree to use it for folding.
as far as a new system on a budget - what is your budget, and when do you plan on buying? both of those factors play a part
I was thinking could Arn not give out a paid subscription to the forums for a year say when you hit milestones of 250,000 points or so, so from Jan to Dec if you accumulate a minium you get the next year?
Budget is around AUS$800-1000, and I will be getting most of the parts in 3 to 4 months unless there is new tech coming not to long after it?
as far as a new system on a budget - what is your budget, and when do you plan on buying? both of those factors play a part
I was thinking could Arn not give out a paid subscription to the forums for a year say when you hit milestones of 250,000 points or so, so from Jan to Dec if you accumulate a minium you get the next year?
Budget is around AUS$800-1000, and I will be getting most of the parts in 3 to 4 months unless there is new tech coming not to long after it?
Imbalance
Oct 26, 09:57 AM
I think it closes at 4pm, I'm here now and it's still fairly busy. Just being told to leave!
Cheerio
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Psilocybin
Apr 22, 11:15 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8G4 Safari/6533.18.5)
Haha. The hd3000 actually is horrible. And I have proof to back that up if you'd like me to make a YouTube account. It's a joke
Haha. The hd3000 actually is horrible. And I have proof to back that up if you'd like me to make a YouTube account. It's a joke
kaneda
Sep 14, 11:21 AM
Everybody needs to UPGRADE from 10-10.1 to 10.2 JAGUAR!! IT IS FAST!
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pbh444
Mar 27, 09:01 PM
I scored two 32GB iPad1s from Verizon on Friday in South Portland Maine.
I kept check the online site all day in case the local Verizon store was out, but the Verizon online prices were still at the pre-sale price. ($529, $629, $729).
I just noticed now (Sunday, 9 PM EDT) that the Verizon online iPad LANDING page states that the iPad1-Mifi combos begin at $429 ($100 less than Friday). However, when you click on "Build" package, you are taken to the page with the OLD (pre-sale) prices.
Maybe they are waiting until Monday AM to fix the "build" page, but you can RIGHT now short circuit it and jump right to the individual combo package pages.
16GB-mifi $429
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=packageItem&action=viewPackageDetail&packageId=165
32GB-mifi $529
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=packageItem&action=viewPackageDetail&packageId=166
16GB-mifi $629
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=packageItem&action=viewPackageDetail&packageId=167
The Wifi only versions will probably NOT be offered online.
It is also my assumption is that these prices will NOT be available in the stores, because when I scored my two 32GB wifi only, the clerk told me that there was not a SINGLE mifi to be had in the state of Maine.
I kept check the online site all day in case the local Verizon store was out, but the Verizon online prices were still at the pre-sale price. ($529, $629, $729).
I just noticed now (Sunday, 9 PM EDT) that the Verizon online iPad LANDING page states that the iPad1-Mifi combos begin at $429 ($100 less than Friday). However, when you click on "Build" package, you are taken to the page with the OLD (pre-sale) prices.
Maybe they are waiting until Monday AM to fix the "build" page, but you can RIGHT now short circuit it and jump right to the individual combo package pages.
16GB-mifi $429
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=packageItem&action=viewPackageDetail&packageId=165
32GB-mifi $529
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=packageItem&action=viewPackageDetail&packageId=166
16GB-mifi $629
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=packageItem&action=viewPackageDetail&packageId=167
The Wifi only versions will probably NOT be offered online.
It is also my assumption is that these prices will NOT be available in the stores, because when I scored my two 32GB wifi only, the clerk told me that there was not a SINGLE mifi to be had in the state of Maine.
yahoohoo
Apr 24, 09:46 AM
Does anyone here know how to clear the recent history in Adobe illustrator?
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CanadaRAM
Sep 17, 12:24 PM
I asked a girl (similar to your situation) for her number and she said, "What for?" LOL. :o
- Need to verify your age and marital status and check out your high school photo and credit rating online before I invest in a dinner and a movie
- National security reasons.
- Need to check the meter on your photocopier.
- Have a high return, surefire investment proposition on some vacation property I'd like to discuss with you.
- Identity theft.
- Need to verify your age and marital status and check out your high school photo and credit rating online before I invest in a dinner and a movie
- National security reasons.
- Need to check the meter on your photocopier.
- Have a high return, surefire investment proposition on some vacation property I'd like to discuss with you.
- Identity theft.
backdraft
Nov 6, 07:07 AM
It's a simple way to increase the iPhones attack surface and introduce more vulnerabilities that enable information to be stolen.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/08/insecure_black_hat_badges/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/08/insecure_black_hat_badges/
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batchtaster
Apr 6, 01:24 AM
It's not about figuring it out. It's about having a computer period. A normal person doesn't own multiple computers. He owns a computer. He might not even have bought it himself, and certainly won't maintain multiple computers (nor will the person who gifted the computer). So once the tablet is the normal person's computer, it's going to be the only one he's using. Telling him he needs a second computer just to use his primary computer is unacceptable.
This is not what you originally said. You said "unless every normal person has a tech friend/relative to keep the tablet working/updated" which is something else altogether, about personal ability. Why else would they have to be a "tech friend". If it was only about having one "period" then any dumbo friend/relative with a computer would do.
When tablets are mature enough to be stand-alone, they will be. Just like Mac OS X initially ran most things in Classic. Now, where is Classic?
You can get apps without a computer. You can get music without a computer. You can get TV shows and movies without a computer. You can get mail without a computer. You don't actually need to sync anything. If you do not have anything to transfer over anyway (your "it's going to be the only one he's using" scenario), then you don't need a desktop.
The computer is needed only if, hey, you might have some stuff already that you might want to use, instead of starting from scratch - but if you don't, then you activate the device once and you're done - or to back the device up or restore it, because, well, where else are you going to back it up? It's like complaining that you have to have a server or external drive to backup your computer. Everything's gotta go somewhere.
This is not what you originally said. You said "unless every normal person has a tech friend/relative to keep the tablet working/updated" which is something else altogether, about personal ability. Why else would they have to be a "tech friend". If it was only about having one "period" then any dumbo friend/relative with a computer would do.
When tablets are mature enough to be stand-alone, they will be. Just like Mac OS X initially ran most things in Classic. Now, where is Classic?
You can get apps without a computer. You can get music without a computer. You can get TV shows and movies without a computer. You can get mail without a computer. You don't actually need to sync anything. If you do not have anything to transfer over anyway (your "it's going to be the only one he's using" scenario), then you don't need a desktop.
The computer is needed only if, hey, you might have some stuff already that you might want to use, instead of starting from scratch - but if you don't, then you activate the device once and you're done - or to back the device up or restore it, because, well, where else are you going to back it up? It's like complaining that you have to have a server or external drive to backup your computer. Everything's gotta go somewhere.
longofest
Nov 6, 09:46 AM
As I tried to alude to in the article, RFID is incredibly prevalent, though it also encompasses a lot of different technologies.
For instance, Active UHF RFID (Ultra High Frequency... around 900 MHz) RFID is used in toll-paying systems like EZ-Pass in the U.S. Since these tags have batteries to drive them, they have a limited lifespan, however they can be read reliably at high speeds (30 mph+) at 30 ft.
Passive UHF RFID, also known as "EPC Gen2" or ISO 18000-6c is used in a ton of applications: Walmart's supply chain, enhanced drivers licenses and some other travel documents (excluding passport booklets). These kind of tags, depending on the antenna and environment, can be read in typical conditions from 15 - 30 ft away, but speeds above 15-20 mph is problematic for getting reliable reads. I worked most with these cards in my last job under contract with the US Government.
Passive HF RFID (High Frequency... around 12 MHz) RFID is used in credit cards, mass transit ID cards, and many access control badges. They have a very limited reliable read range of only a few centimeters. I've been working more and more with these recently in my current job with a security company.
The "Near Field Communication" (NFC) that the article talks about is talking about a version of HF RFID that is both passive and active.
For instance, Active UHF RFID (Ultra High Frequency... around 900 MHz) RFID is used in toll-paying systems like EZ-Pass in the U.S. Since these tags have batteries to drive them, they have a limited lifespan, however they can be read reliably at high speeds (30 mph+) at 30 ft.
Passive UHF RFID, also known as "EPC Gen2" or ISO 18000-6c is used in a ton of applications: Walmart's supply chain, enhanced drivers licenses and some other travel documents (excluding passport booklets). These kind of tags, depending on the antenna and environment, can be read in typical conditions from 15 - 30 ft away, but speeds above 15-20 mph is problematic for getting reliable reads. I worked most with these cards in my last job under contract with the US Government.
Passive HF RFID (High Frequency... around 12 MHz) RFID is used in credit cards, mass transit ID cards, and many access control badges. They have a very limited reliable read range of only a few centimeters. I've been working more and more with these recently in my current job with a security company.
The "Near Field Communication" (NFC) that the article talks about is talking about a version of HF RFID that is both passive and active.
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appleguy123
Feb 19, 02:21 AM
I am thinner than Steve Jobs. How long do I have left?
DavidLeblond
Apr 25, 01:17 PM
Certainly can't be Mac App Store only, because then if you skipped Snow Leopard you'd have to purchase it before you could download Lion.
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roylong
Dec 1, 11:13 AM
I can sell you a can of spray paint and some masking covers so you can do the job yourself for about $20 :eek:
rnb2
Apr 24, 11:39 PM
Honestly, if they offered an 8GB RAM option, I'd be sorely tempted to go from my current 2009 i7 iMac and 11.6" 4GB MBA to a maxed-out 13" SB MBA + 27" monitor. I would probably also have to move from my current FW800 OWC RAID to something with Thunderbolt, since I'd need something that could daisy-chain with the monitor.
I know that I would lose the top-end performance of the iMac, but it would be worth it to jump to a truly next-generation, all solid state laptop. I need the RAM to run Aperture and Photoshop CS5 together effectively, but I think I could live with everything else. I'd really love to get down to one computer that is decent when hooked up to a 27" monitor, and also very portable for the limited traveling that I do. The C2D MBA is fine for my travel needs, but not good enough for my day-to-day use at home.
I could go with a 15" MacBook Pro, but I really prefer the forward-looking MBA design and weight, and the price is more attractive on the MBA once you start looking at SSD options in the MBP.
Do I think they'll offer the 8GB option this year? I suspect not, but we may then see it in 2012.
I know that I would lose the top-end performance of the iMac, but it would be worth it to jump to a truly next-generation, all solid state laptop. I need the RAM to run Aperture and Photoshop CS5 together effectively, but I think I could live with everything else. I'd really love to get down to one computer that is decent when hooked up to a 27" monitor, and also very portable for the limited traveling that I do. The C2D MBA is fine for my travel needs, but not good enough for my day-to-day use at home.
I could go with a 15" MacBook Pro, but I really prefer the forward-looking MBA design and weight, and the price is more attractive on the MBA once you start looking at SSD options in the MBP.
Do I think they'll offer the 8GB option this year? I suspect not, but we may then see it in 2012.
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Interstella5555
Feb 24, 10:22 PM
...or Apple could allow returns, like every "normal" store.
No normal store allows software returns. Nice try though.
No normal store allows software returns. Nice try though.
Queso
Dec 18, 11:08 AM
There's no "overreaction" in the news, just publicity. Do you honestly think a major record company is going to miss such an opportunity for free advertising?
I like the song BTW. Reminds me of my younger days :)
I like the song BTW. Reminds me of my younger days :)
jav6454
Apr 13, 12:49 AM
My guess, tons of GSM models going to scalpers. Scalpers probably weren't surveyed. :p
As usual tons if ignorant remarks about CDMA in this thread.
CDMA as dead tech and slow? Not ignorant remark. However, GSM is also a dead tech.
As usual tons if ignorant remarks about CDMA in this thread.
CDMA as dead tech and slow? Not ignorant remark. However, GSM is also a dead tech.
My1stMacWasLisa
Nov 21, 08:32 AM
Never said I was Gandhi. My point is valid nonetheless.
There is only a finite amount of water available within the Earth ecosystem an only a percentage of that is available for drinking at any given time. A far greater volume is used for agriculture to grow food for human consumption.
We could all sell our iPhones and Macs right now and donate the cash to a charity of your nomination but it wouldn't change the volume of water available within the Earth ecosystem.
The problem isn't wasteful spending of money. The problem is that Earth does not have enough water to support 7 billion human mouths.
Are these white iPhones genuine. Thought Foxconn would just eliminate employees who stole.
There is only a finite amount of water available within the Earth ecosystem an only a percentage of that is available for drinking at any given time. A far greater volume is used for agriculture to grow food for human consumption.
We could all sell our iPhones and Macs right now and donate the cash to a charity of your nomination but it wouldn't change the volume of water available within the Earth ecosystem.
The problem isn't wasteful spending of money. The problem is that Earth does not have enough water to support 7 billion human mouths.
Are these white iPhones genuine. Thought Foxconn would just eliminate employees who stole.
MacRumors
Apr 19, 09:38 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/19/video-of-64-gb-white-iphone-4-running-old-test-ios-4-build-with-expose/)
Engadget points (http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/19/white-iphone-4-used-to-demo-new-multitasking-spotlight-search-i/) to a new video posted (http://www.tinhte.vn/tin-tuc-gioi-thieu-118/tren-tay-giao-dien-da-nhiem-moi-tren-iphone-5-a-663854/) on Vietnamese site Tinhte.vn apparently claiming to show a white iPhone 4 running a "test version" of iOS offering Expose-like multitasking that allows users to select running apps from a grid of nine screenshot thumbnails.You can tap on a window to expand it (replete with animation) to fill the screen or long-press on it to bring up the familiar "x" button for shutting it down. This is all accompanied by a new "Search iPhone" dialog at the very top, which sends you into Spotlight search that looks very much the way it currently does (though it seems to no longer be accessible with a left swipe from the first homescreen as on previous versions of iOS).While the apparently all-white home button and a passing similarity of the multitasking feature to the jailbreak tool multifl0w (http://www.multifl0w.com/) suggest that this could simply be a customized iPhone 4 running jailbreak software.
But a second video posted to the same YouTube account and noticed by 9 to 5 Mac (http://www.9to5mac.com/62499/white-iphone-caught-in-the-wild-running-ios-5-with-expose-multitasking/) offers more detail of what may in fact be a prototype iPhone. The device in the second video may be different than the one in the first video, as the second one seems to have a more standard white home button with black square inside.
The second video clearly shows an "XX GB" marking on the back along with a number of "X" placeholders in model identifiers, common for prototype devices. A walkthrough of the "About" screen in iOS shows, however, that the model carries 64 GB of storage.
Interestingly, a partial glimpse of the iOS build number can be seen as the "About" screen is shown, and the device appears to be running iOS 4.0 with a build number beginning with 8A as would be expected. Consequently, this does appear to be a test version of iOS 4.0 rather than an upcoming iOS 5 build, although Apple could of course choose to implement some of these features in future iOS releases.
The device also appears to contain several preloaded applications internally used by Apple for diagnostics, testing, and demoing, lending additional legitimacy to the claims.
Article Link: Video of 64 GB White iPhone 4 Running Old 'Test' iOS 4 Build With Expose? (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/19/video-of-64-gb-white-iphone-4-running-old-test-ios-4-build-with-expose/)
Engadget points (http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/19/white-iphone-4-used-to-demo-new-multitasking-spotlight-search-i/) to a new video posted (http://www.tinhte.vn/tin-tuc-gioi-thieu-118/tren-tay-giao-dien-da-nhiem-moi-tren-iphone-5-a-663854/) on Vietnamese site Tinhte.vn apparently claiming to show a white iPhone 4 running a "test version" of iOS offering Expose-like multitasking that allows users to select running apps from a grid of nine screenshot thumbnails.You can tap on a window to expand it (replete with animation) to fill the screen or long-press on it to bring up the familiar "x" button for shutting it down. This is all accompanied by a new "Search iPhone" dialog at the very top, which sends you into Spotlight search that looks very much the way it currently does (though it seems to no longer be accessible with a left swipe from the first homescreen as on previous versions of iOS).While the apparently all-white home button and a passing similarity of the multitasking feature to the jailbreak tool multifl0w (http://www.multifl0w.com/) suggest that this could simply be a customized iPhone 4 running jailbreak software.
But a second video posted to the same YouTube account and noticed by 9 to 5 Mac (http://www.9to5mac.com/62499/white-iphone-caught-in-the-wild-running-ios-5-with-expose-multitasking/) offers more detail of what may in fact be a prototype iPhone. The device in the second video may be different than the one in the first video, as the second one seems to have a more standard white home button with black square inside.
The second video clearly shows an "XX GB" marking on the back along with a number of "X" placeholders in model identifiers, common for prototype devices. A walkthrough of the "About" screen in iOS shows, however, that the model carries 64 GB of storage.
Interestingly, a partial glimpse of the iOS build number can be seen as the "About" screen is shown, and the device appears to be running iOS 4.0 with a build number beginning with 8A as would be expected. Consequently, this does appear to be a test version of iOS 4.0 rather than an upcoming iOS 5 build, although Apple could of course choose to implement some of these features in future iOS releases.
The device also appears to contain several preloaded applications internally used by Apple for diagnostics, testing, and demoing, lending additional legitimacy to the claims.
Article Link: Video of 64 GB White iPhone 4 Running Old 'Test' iOS 4 Build With Expose? (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/19/video-of-64-gb-white-iphone-4-running-old-test-ios-4-build-with-expose/)
WildCowboy
Oct 16, 04:45 PM
Why would apple start production on the new iPod in December? When would the release be then?
It would be released at MWSF, just after the new year. Makes perfect sense...although a lot of people were hoping it would come sooner.
It would be released at MWSF, just after the new year. Makes perfect sense...although a lot of people were hoping it would come sooner.
iTucci
Sep 25, 10:48 AM
Yes, where's the MacBook Pro with integrated toaster?
Quite why people keep expecting announcements of upgraded laptops at a photography conference is beyond me.
The last PowerBook model was announced at Photo Plus Expo last November.
Quite why people keep expecting announcements of upgraded laptops at a photography conference is beyond me.
The last PowerBook model was announced at Photo Plus Expo last November.
sebastianlewis
May 31, 12:20 AM
OK, I've been going through the Macrumors Guides a lot today, and what I'm seeing really sucks in organization, I'm sure you all know that already which is why this discussion is already here, so I wrote a few guidelines, made some minor changes to my previous proposal and I'm resubmitting it here. I'm going to continue going around and marking pages that are Stubs or Out of Date or should probably be deleted so that we have something to work with... we need a general agreement on what makes a good categorization system so that this mess is never recreated again and if possible I'd like to have an agreement by next week so that the changes can be put into effect immediately.
All of the Sub-Subcategories can be done away with, especially those under Apple Events, most of the Subcategories can be done away with, and all of the main categories can be reorganized and merged with others with a few done away with all together, categories are being treated more like tag clouds even though that's far from the case, they're not tag clouds, they're a hierarchy for useful organization
1) No Sub-Sub categories. A few subcategories per category is fine, but too many and it makes the Guides harder to navigate. Specific information like whether an app is an Instant Messenger or Web Browser can be included in the article page itself, and speaking of which...
2) Document information, tips, and guides (if they're not too long, otherwise Subdocument (see #3)) and any other useful information like developer, developer website, manufacturer, whatever the relevant metadata is directly in the page for that piece of software/hardware/service if possible. Creating individual pages for each and every one of these will clutter the categories which is probably what led to Sub-Sub categories in the first place.
3) Subdocument really long guides into the article page. I'm not entirely sure how this would look, but the general idea is place the Guide directly in the relevant page like say, a tip for making Safari faster (if you have one) would go directly in the article page under a Subheading of "Tips" if it's a few sentences to a paragraph long, but if it's too long and Safari already has a lot of different tips inline, you might want to instead create a page directly for your tip of putting Safari on steroids and then link to that somewhere on the Safari page, I'm not sure where yet but a simple "Related pages" thing wouldn't be good enough, I'm thinking something similar to how Wikipedia users broke the Cell BE page into several, or how they have a dedicated sidebar for related pages to say... Anarchy, or the Democratic Party... anyway I'll work on this idea some more and see if I have a better solution.
4) Don't be afraid of UNIX, Mac OS X has always been considered UNIX-like and is now certified UNIX with official support for the POSIX API. "Terminal Commands" are not so much Commands as they are individual packages and programs, separating them from the rest of the Software just because they run in the CLI is well, to say the least, annoying. You have OpenOffice.org for example in the main Software Category and that's an X11 program, but all the Terminal programs like man and top are separated from the Software category with the exception of pwd for some arbitrary reason. OK I realize there's a lot of people editing these pages and that inconsistencies are bound to happen, but that's why we need a simpler category page.
5) There are 3 Games Lists, List of Universal Games, Free Mac Games, and List of Intel Games, I already posted in the discussions of those pages that we need to separate games by genre, not architecture or price.
A note about Subcategories, is there anyway to make them act more like filters instead that would just limit the items in the list to the items in that category, or will we just have to post the articles under both the category and the subcategory for that to work? If possible, subcategories would be better off functioning as filters, then we could have an inclusive list of hardware and the list could be filtered by clicking on one of the categories, but I'm not sure if MediaWiki allows this.
I'm sure there's a lot of problems I'm missing from this um, well rant/list.
1. Hardware- (this would include Apple's hardware, notable 3rd party accessories, processors, internal hardware, Apple's hardware patents, and other hardware data.) Subcategories: Mac, Server, iPhone, iPod. (I'd only agree to those Subcategories if we could get them to work as filters instead, otherwise that's pretty much the entire list subcategorized).
2. Software� Subcategories: Operating Systems, Applications (including Terminal PROGRAMS and X11 PROGRAMS without any sort of Sub-Subcategorizing here, if a user cares about getting the most out of their computer, they won't care whether it is GUI or CLI), Software Development, and Games (Only if we were to use subcategories as filters).
3. Services (same as before)
4. Networking (same as before)
5. People, Events, and Organizations (would include companies, expos, and of course People, there would be no need for any subcategories here either)
6. Guides (I didn't touch on this before, but this is for guides that really don't fit under a specific category, maybe meta-guides that encompass the benefits that other guides on other pages provide for example)
7. Macrumors.com (I also didn't touch on this one, maybe it could be renamed to something else, but since the Buyer's Guide is a tab in itself on the main page and would be included under Guides anyway, probably all the Subcategories could be eliminated and this could serve as a place to store Help pages and Templates for reference, we might as well rename it while we're at it, or create a separate "Editors" category for what I'm talking about and leave this one as it is since I don't really care about the stuff relating directly to Macrumors.com... heh)
Keep in mind that the Guides are here to help educate the users, therefore there is no reason to shun some things like the UNIX parts out into a sub-sub category simply to keep it user friendly, someone is likely here to learn how to find out how to do something specific or else find other information, and the Guides should be a good information service exactly for that without doing any user-unfriendly filtering for them. :-p
I am open to debate about all of this, but I want to agree to something by next week if it's possible, it is supposed to be a Wiki after all but if it's total anarchy then that's no good either, and after this mess of a categorization system is over with and we have some lightweight guidelines for us and anybody we can recruit to make changes, then we can actually focus on the articles instead of the hierarchy.
Sebastian
All of the Sub-Subcategories can be done away with, especially those under Apple Events, most of the Subcategories can be done away with, and all of the main categories can be reorganized and merged with others with a few done away with all together, categories are being treated more like tag clouds even though that's far from the case, they're not tag clouds, they're a hierarchy for useful organization
1) No Sub-Sub categories. A few subcategories per category is fine, but too many and it makes the Guides harder to navigate. Specific information like whether an app is an Instant Messenger or Web Browser can be included in the article page itself, and speaking of which...
2) Document information, tips, and guides (if they're not too long, otherwise Subdocument (see #3)) and any other useful information like developer, developer website, manufacturer, whatever the relevant metadata is directly in the page for that piece of software/hardware/service if possible. Creating individual pages for each and every one of these will clutter the categories which is probably what led to Sub-Sub categories in the first place.
3) Subdocument really long guides into the article page. I'm not entirely sure how this would look, but the general idea is place the Guide directly in the relevant page like say, a tip for making Safari faster (if you have one) would go directly in the article page under a Subheading of "Tips" if it's a few sentences to a paragraph long, but if it's too long and Safari already has a lot of different tips inline, you might want to instead create a page directly for your tip of putting Safari on steroids and then link to that somewhere on the Safari page, I'm not sure where yet but a simple "Related pages" thing wouldn't be good enough, I'm thinking something similar to how Wikipedia users broke the Cell BE page into several, or how they have a dedicated sidebar for related pages to say... Anarchy, or the Democratic Party... anyway I'll work on this idea some more and see if I have a better solution.
4) Don't be afraid of UNIX, Mac OS X has always been considered UNIX-like and is now certified UNIX with official support for the POSIX API. "Terminal Commands" are not so much Commands as they are individual packages and programs, separating them from the rest of the Software just because they run in the CLI is well, to say the least, annoying. You have OpenOffice.org for example in the main Software Category and that's an X11 program, but all the Terminal programs like man and top are separated from the Software category with the exception of pwd for some arbitrary reason. OK I realize there's a lot of people editing these pages and that inconsistencies are bound to happen, but that's why we need a simpler category page.
5) There are 3 Games Lists, List of Universal Games, Free Mac Games, and List of Intel Games, I already posted in the discussions of those pages that we need to separate games by genre, not architecture or price.
A note about Subcategories, is there anyway to make them act more like filters instead that would just limit the items in the list to the items in that category, or will we just have to post the articles under both the category and the subcategory for that to work? If possible, subcategories would be better off functioning as filters, then we could have an inclusive list of hardware and the list could be filtered by clicking on one of the categories, but I'm not sure if MediaWiki allows this.
I'm sure there's a lot of problems I'm missing from this um, well rant/list.
1. Hardware- (this would include Apple's hardware, notable 3rd party accessories, processors, internal hardware, Apple's hardware patents, and other hardware data.) Subcategories: Mac, Server, iPhone, iPod. (I'd only agree to those Subcategories if we could get them to work as filters instead, otherwise that's pretty much the entire list subcategorized).
2. Software� Subcategories: Operating Systems, Applications (including Terminal PROGRAMS and X11 PROGRAMS without any sort of Sub-Subcategorizing here, if a user cares about getting the most out of their computer, they won't care whether it is GUI or CLI), Software Development, and Games (Only if we were to use subcategories as filters).
3. Services (same as before)
4. Networking (same as before)
5. People, Events, and Organizations (would include companies, expos, and of course People, there would be no need for any subcategories here either)
6. Guides (I didn't touch on this before, but this is for guides that really don't fit under a specific category, maybe meta-guides that encompass the benefits that other guides on other pages provide for example)
7. Macrumors.com (I also didn't touch on this one, maybe it could be renamed to something else, but since the Buyer's Guide is a tab in itself on the main page and would be included under Guides anyway, probably all the Subcategories could be eliminated and this could serve as a place to store Help pages and Templates for reference, we might as well rename it while we're at it, or create a separate "Editors" category for what I'm talking about and leave this one as it is since I don't really care about the stuff relating directly to Macrumors.com... heh)
Keep in mind that the Guides are here to help educate the users, therefore there is no reason to shun some things like the UNIX parts out into a sub-sub category simply to keep it user friendly, someone is likely here to learn how to find out how to do something specific or else find other information, and the Guides should be a good information service exactly for that without doing any user-unfriendly filtering for them. :-p
I am open to debate about all of this, but I want to agree to something by next week if it's possible, it is supposed to be a Wiki after all but if it's total anarchy then that's no good either, and after this mess of a categorization system is over with and we have some lightweight guidelines for us and anybody we can recruit to make changes, then we can actually focus on the articles instead of the hierarchy.
Sebastian
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